We heard like a

car screech up outside the restaurant and then this kind of noise as the five girls got out of the car and ran up the staircase and they kind of came like pounding in all loud and leery.

And one of the things that they said on that day, Jerry kind of leaned over and she said, you know, we're going to be massive and we've got three singles coming out in this order.

And she kind of listed what the three singles were.

And we're going to make a film in a few years time and we're going to tour the world.

We're going to play at Wembley Stadium.

In retrospect, it's like, oh my God, like, you know, they manifested that.

This is the sign of the times He's got more to come

Here's pop manager and ex-music journalist Peter Loraine.

I remember with All Saints, Juliet the publicist took all the different magazine journalists out for dinner with them and they had Never Ever, um, was the only song we'd heard.

And I remember hearing it for the first time and it was just one of those songs that immediately you're like, "This is really, really special." So we went for dinner.

That was the first time that I met them.

They hadn't appeared anywhere publicly.

They hadn't been in any magazines.

But the first thing that Juliet and Eugene did was they secured them two pages in The Face and it was like a black and white photograph.

Why is the shelf life of a pop band so short?