So Peter, you sort of just put things on trees? [laughs]

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So I, um, I go to, um, like Bunnings and, um, like, um, op shops and thrift stores, [lips smack] um, and Depop and I, like-

How does that sort of sit for the people around the table?

Oh, I don't, I, I, I, well, I, I don't know if I'd put the tree, like, inside.

That seems, like, sort of crazy.

[laughs] I don't know.