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Peter Liebert

Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) at Salesloft/Clari, former CISO for the State of California

Aug 13, 2026

10:50
Yes.
10:50
And that's where the agile methodology really took hold, was like, look, go bite-size, right? Going back to the elephant.
10:56
If it's okay if you fail in a small manner, but the problem we're seeing is because the AI solutions that we're implementing are so encompassing, it's not really failing in small anymore.
11:06
Now we're failing big, and that's a problem.
11:09
So that's my take on the first one.
11:11
On the second, I totally agree that AI innovation's moving faster than security can catch up.
11:18
But that's such a brand-new technology, right? You can almost assume that's going to happen.

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22:41
Oh, that's interesting.
22:05
What do you think is gonna have the biggest impact? Are you, are you in alignment with Gary here?
22:10
Yeah, I think, uh, I, I would, I would be in alignment with him.
22:13
I think, um, certainly AI SBOMs are great.
22:15
I think that's a, that's a good thing, and I think people kind of knew that was coming, so, uh, we're kind of able to prepare for that, um, you know, since the SBOM, uh, you know, component already came out.
22:25
So it was only a natural progression.
22:27
So but i- in terms of, uh, what Gary was talking about with, um, balkanization, if you will, of, of data, and it's allowing also, uh, uh, not allowing, but giving us like a bellwether, if you will, of the overall sentiment for how, um, folks are looking at US tech companies.
22:44
And I think, uh, to Gary's point, this is not gonna be isolated to just government systems because every one of those government organizations has other SaaS solutions, other, you know, technologies, et cetera.

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31:07
Uh, before we get out of here, is there anything from the news from the day that leaves you with a piece of advice you can give our audience before we get out of here?

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