And could you speak about how that began? You know, was it in school? Was it elsewhere? You know, that you started to feel this affinity for history and wanting to uncover things?

I've always been interested since I was a child in stories from the past.

So my grandmother, I would just join in conversations if it had anything to do with the past.

I also remember when I was very young, my parents took me on a holiday to the UK.

I was maybe like seven or six I remember entering one of the like Hampton Court and really it was a deja vu feeling like I've been here before it was like the smell that everything was strangely appealing familiar it was very strange so it I had this affinity with the past and with old things.

My father, when we were kids, bought the Encyclopedia Britannica series.

And I would spend hours just flipping through them, the volumes, and it was endlessly fascinating.

And then how did that kind of like build up all the way to becoming the honorary founding curator of NUS Baba House in 2007? Yeah,