True,

true.

But it's funny because Rove has mentioned it recently to me that we did in the very first season of...

I did a second called Other People's Lives.

And because I always loved big ego characters with little talent.

And I just like that mockumentary kind of format because I was a big fan of, you know, like obviously Spinal Tap and I think Guffman had been released by then.

But this is all pre-office and all that stuff.

of Mormon.

Mm

... to make strangers laugh"? And I'm not sure about you, but I often look back when I was younger.

Like, I traveled around Europe for six months just by myself, you know, backpacking around Europe, um, and the UK and a little bit of Scandinavia.

Uh, and I look back, you know, I, I hitchhiked in Ireland, and I look back and I go, "What were you doing? You were like...

Geez, you had some balls." You know, like, and you...

the older you get, you probably, you know, you, you're probably taking less risks.

And, and, and, um, and I, and I look back at that, you know... 'Cause people say, "Oh, comedy must be the hardest thing in the... to do." Like, so many people say that, but it's so untrue.

[laughs]

[laughs]

2023 was...

Well, 2023 basically is the, is the, uh, the antidote, because, uh, if that doesn't happen, I was-- it would still hurt more.

That was like, that w- I'd said, uh, between 2018 before 2023, that 2018 was so close to being the best day of my life.

Because I was with, yeah, everyone.

You know, um, my dad was sitting with us.

You know, everyone who I go with every week, I was able to get tickets to have us all together.

[laughs]

It

was Will, myself, Tripod, Ross Noble, Keith Robinson.

Yes.

Ross took over from Keith.

They kind of split the tour.

Yeah.

Corinne and Matt King.

Okay.

Have you seen anything like this with a coach that's sort of new school, new age, and really looking to get the most out of his players in different ways?

Yeah.

And it's, I've been lucky enough to go into the club a few times.

I was even there last, last week for a couple of days.

And yeah, You literally see it on the walls and this was fly who did this.

He he's put history on the walls.

There's reminders everywhere about the jumper, about the history of the game.

us a bit more about

Yeah, that's

right.

Accurate.

Because Tommy was booked weeks out, so you don't know what's going to happen.

I remember having a conversation with Tommy after the show, and he was a bit white.

We were both probably a bit white in this going, geez, that was tough.

And it's an ongoing situation.

Like 14 years, I mean, I know some people get even less than that, but 14 years doesn't feel long enough for something that becomes so much part of your life.