And that's why they're so anti being called a cult or being called high control is because they're trying to distance themselves from that.

There's another thing that proved that the New Zealand thing 20 years ago was run by the church.

I said this on my podcast, but after it was all finished, the Brethren had told the media that these Brethren, these secret servants had paid for the whole thing.

And only a few months after it was finished, or weeks after it was finished, the Brethren started publishing this.

this data called the Strategic Information Services Newsletter for Businesses.

And I was in business at the time and was expected to subscribe to it at the cost of several hundred dollars a month.

And I sent an email back to them and said, is this to pay for the election campaigning? And I got no reply to that email, but they sent it out to all the Brazilian businesses.

Peter, go ahead and read yours.