How do you go about advising them on that?

That's the biggest question.

Once you get to who should I find, it's what's the equity? Because also a lot of times, because I'm dealing with students, right? They're doing it voluntarily.

These are early.

They don't have revenue.

So the whole idea of would you hire someone? Would you make them a co-founder? Hiring is not really an option because there's no money to pay someone.

So they're almost like offering... co-foundership as a way to compensate, which is really expensive.

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