Right.

And it's the outward persona that they've been putting on for a long, long time is always there.

Over time, as they begin to trust and begin to be able to feel comfortable when they're talking with me, that's when things sort of come out, and that's when things ...

They become more emotionally aware and are more capable of expressing themselves, and sometimes that expression can be through a bit of anger, um, or sometimes it can just be having the ability to feel safe and say what they need to say.

If I'm struggling or somebody else is struggling, what's the first thing they can do?

There's, there's so many things out there, and it'll be different for each person, I think.

But, I mean, one of the hardest things is to ask for help.

So why not look up a podcast? Reach out to a friend.