So how does that, you know, what are those early conversations I'm having with you look like and how are you interacting able to kind of be that bridge that helps me kind of manage this? Yeah,

well, first of all, I'm always going to meet you where you are.

One of the things that my clients, pretty much every single client I've ever had, and most of the people that I've worked with over the years in jobs, Sam, an incredibly calming person.

I have this calming presence and I do.

I listen very deeply.

I can listen for all the things you're saying and not saying.

I can pay attention to the energy you're bringing and how your body is going through this as well.

Yeah, is there a story you can share that maybe makes that come to life where you explain the challenge they came to you with and what happened at the end and how they were able to kind of get to a better place? Don't name their names, obviously, but just maybe share the challenge.

Yeah.

Uh, I, I was at WeWork when- It was fun.

Mm.

And I wouldn't say fun, it was crazy.

There was such a buzz around it- ... at that time- Wasn't there? It was like WeWork, WeWork.

'Cause it had beer on tap as well, didn't it? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.