Aye, so it's not as simple as giving it, it's coming from a long line.

I think at first it never really crossed my mind that this is a pressure because I was more concentrating on trying to prove to my old man that I can do this, you know.

But working career didn't start in Crowlers, you know.

I always thought that if I went into Crowlers, my dad was just going to get pissed off with me, you know, because I've got my own ideas, I'm quick, I'm...

You know, I'd take risks and stuff.

My dad was very conservative, you know, and kept things very steady.

Aye.

For people that, anyone that doesn't know, you know, without going into too much detail, what is Krollers?