Did you find certain things to be true, certain things to be false? Actually, I found

things that Ellie and Ryan found to be true.

I mean, he told me these crazy stories about being a fugitive in New Zealand.

Turned out to be true.

About spending time in jail for counterfeiting money.

Turned out to be true.

um and then he said uh he had a massive amphetamine cooking business uh where he sort of awkwardly compared himself to breaking bad it was a very weird moment because he said um i think there's a show that i think is called break i mean i think we have a clip of that too actually that i think is called breaking bad breaking bad was the most popular show on television at the time to to feign like i don't know maybe there's a show that i sort of barely heard about And maybe that's me.

I mean, was there any indication from anything now that you in hindsight look back?