What jumped out at you from this big piece of work?

This was an extraordinary piece of work because it was, it was two of their kind of big-name journalists who apparently spent six months working on it in conjunction with LVMH, which was in, in a sense quite surprising because Le Monde is, leans to the left.

It's not known as being a, a fan of, of his or of, you know, any of these so-called oligarchs.

Anyway, so this, this investigation came out six days in a row, 20,000 words.

I read every one of them.

I suppose the, the main thing is perhaps there are no killer revelations in it, I think.

It just paints a very, very vivid picture of what it's like- Within LVMH and how sort of indi- idiosyncratically it is run by Arnault almost, you know, almost like a family business.

Uh, is there much of a struggle, and did you get any insight in that from the Le Monde piece and beyond, about the race to succeed him amongst his kids?

Tell us about some of the, well, what would we call them, dirty tricks that have been brought into play.

There's been some extraordinary dirty tricks, all manner of accusations against Magyar and against his party of being in league with foreign enemies, with malign interests, being agents of the Ukrainians.

I mean, one of the, the more lurid or most lurid accusations centers on what is thought to be a sex tape showing Magyar with an ex-girlfriend at a party at which it's claimed that cocaine was consumed.

Uh, and you know, as we're talking now, that tape has yet to emerge.

All we've had so far are kind of one still photograph of a bed with, um, some white powder on the bedside table.

But Magyar's dealt with it very, very effectively because he's...

Rather than trying to ignore it or pretend this doesn't exist, he has said very openly at his rallies, "There is a sex tape.

So say Magyar does win, what will that mean in terms of the populist right that has become such a fan of Orbán around the world, and particularly in Europe as well? Will that actually have any practical impact on the fortunes of other populist right parties or leaders, do you think?