Hmm.

Um, we were co-managers for Skynyrd for a couple years, 'cause one of our guys who worked for us was manager, and we were co-managers.

And, um, you know, it, it's...

It- there would be calls at 2:00 in the morning that the bus was pulled over on the side of the road and, and two of the guys were in a fist fight.

You know, I mean, it, it, it's, that, there's...

In those days, it was much more rough and tumble with acts.

Hmm.

Now it's a business.