So why would we, you know, in the same way that we, we don't make a lot of clothing here anymore, why would we necessarily wanna have data centers here?

Because I think it comes down to what do we see as critical to compete, going forward.

Uh, clothing is probably not an area that we're gonna compete on, but AI, uh, you know, the, the simple reality is that it is changing dramatically what we do every day.

It is definitely going to be a way of competing in the future.

And do we want our country reliant on overseas, uh, providers to do that? I, I, I think we want the ability to be able to do that ourselves as well.

I mean, how does, how does this potentially play into that?

Well, I think you could take Airbus as an example.

So, uh, a couple of weeks ago, you know, Airbus, a very sophisticated company, a lot of critical IP, a- and they've examined this exact question.

So why would we, you know, in the same way that we don't make a lot of clothing here anymore, why would we necessarily want to have data centres here?

Because I think it comes down to what do we see as critical to compete going forward.

Clothing is probably not an area that we're going to compete on.

But AI, the simple reality is that it is changing dramatically what we do every day.

It is definitely going to be a way of competing in the future.

And do we want our country reliant on overseas providers to do that? I think we want the ability to be able to do that ourselves as well.

I mean, how does this potentially play into that?

Well, I think you could take Airbus as an example.

But how is it that a judge from the state of Colorado is able to execute this sort of authority over college sports? On the surface of it, if you don't know anything about that sort of thing, seems kind of random that that would be how this unfolds.

Yeah, yeah.

So a quick explanation, because I'm sure this stuff is just like extremely hard for an average fan to even remotely try to keep up with.

It's hard for me and it's what I do every day.

So I'll try not to be like overly detailed or professorial about it.

But basically, this is a district court.

So within the United States court system, there's a Supreme Court and then there are circuit courts.

Do players have the green light to just get back into school and start playing football? Or is there more that needs to occur before folks can actually really start making moves on this?

But do you think it's a little bit more nuanced than that? Or what's your understanding of that?

It's a bit complicated, isn't it? I mean, I think there's no hiding that her appeal is very sharply racist.

But racism is a funny thing, you know.

And one of the things that we have to figure out is that there appears to be some evidence now that there are at least some sections of the non-European communities in Australia who are being tempted into going to support Pauline Hanson.

It's not like they can't see that she's being racist, but they think, you know, maybe if they're targeting another race apart from me.

It's not so bad.

I mean, it's a bit pathetic, but unfortunately, racism is a bit of a beast of its own, you know, and it creates a hierarchy.

So, yeah, how can we get organized better here in Australia as, I guess, the organized left and then pushing out for broader amongst intercommunities and actually provide an alternative to both to One Nation and to the major parties as well.

How did you get the part of the monster?

Uh, gee, I forget how I got it.

We, uh, uh, uh, I knew Gene Wilder and, and Marty Feldman and, and I knew Mel and, and there was a conversation and, and, uh, uh, they wanted to do a, a, a, you know, a spoof on Frankenstein.

And, and it was decided, you know, I was best for the monster, Marty was best for Igor, and blah, blah, blah, like that.

And Gene Wilder, you know, uh, w- w- wrote the original script and then he and Mel rewrote it, and, and it became a movie.

It just happened.

So did you go back and watch the original study, Boris Karloff?

I didn't have to because I, uh, had seen the original when I was about 12 years old, uh, uh, in the era before television, where there was a, a, a movie, uh, in downtown Philadelphia that used to show old movies.