no way they're going to even do that.

I hate when people do this to me, but we're good friends and I'm going to do this to you.

It's not that I won't entertain that hypothetical.

No, I know there's no chance.

I get you.

I get you.

But it's important to talk about why there's no chance because this gets to the nature of the problem.

beheaded a little lower on the neck if you do the ostrich thing.

If I give you dictatorial powers, what do you do about education for let's start with the United States?

there's a one ring that binds them all and in the darkness blinds them.

And that is the Linda McMahon has the power to do this.

She hasn't done it yet, but there's an accrediting bodies for regional accreditation branches.

You have to disable the accreditation bodies on the way out as she dismantles the position of secretary of education.

So you have to make it so that the, the problem is that the corruption is so deep and so endemic that, that the accrediting bodies themselves have become corrupted, and the peer-reviewed journals and literature has become corrupted.

So the first order of business is to get rid of those.

Most people don't have that fortitude.

The ideas

of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong, are more powerful than is commonly understood.

Okay.

Indeed, the world is ruled by little else.

Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.

Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back.

I am sure that the power of vested interest is vastly exaggerated compared with the gradual encroachment of ideas.

Well, of course,

... seeing it at Evergreen 'cause it's-

Not even nine years later.

I mean, even pre-Claudine Gay.

I mean, like, it was j- So the th...

I guess we, we, we should do a little chronology here.

Claudine Gay, the president of Harvard, comes out as a serial plagiarist who plagiarized her acknowledgments.

Even if she didn't, I mean, [laughs] it's pretty remarkable she plagiarized the acknowledgments of her dissertation.

Sure.

do you have to, I mean, you find a few things to agree about, right?

That will come later.

The first order of business is you have to figure out what someone believes.

Yeah.

And then you have to figure out why they believe it.

And too often we're centered on someone will say something and we'll just want to resort to that's not true.

But often – oh, and then it sounds boring, but it's really true.

So don't we need to – I mean maybe we've got a bit down a path here, but I just wonder if part of it is that we have to be able to sit uncomfortably sometimes with people who hold alternative views and be okay with that.

Yeah.

And then you have to figure out why they believe it.

And too often we're centered on... someone will say something and we'll just want to resort to that's not true.

But often, oh, and then it sounds boring, but it's really true.

You have to figure out what people mean by words.

What does someone mean by faith? What does someone mean by a gang, the Black Power Gang? What do people...

So, there's a pretty easy to enact sequence, but the most important thing is you have to listen, you have to repeat back to the person, you have to understand what they believe and why they believe it, and only then can you have any kind of meaningful criticism.

So don't we need to, I mean, maybe we've got a bit down a path here, but I just wonder if part of it is that we have to be able to sit uncomfortably sometimes with people who hold alternative views and be okay with that.

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So when you're beholden to an ideology, you look at data points, anything in your epistemic landscape or your factual landscape.

You look at data points.

Every single thing you do works in service to the ideology.

And so we have created a system, and we have no one to blame for this but ourselves.

We've created a system in which ideologues are educational administrators.

Ideologues have been teaching our kids.

And in that pursuit, many potentially 10% are corrupt and plagiarizing to get status within that in group.