But, um, but yeah, how did your relationship happen with him in the first instance? How did you, how did you come across John?

So initially, John Eldon, um, I met him at an event.

I was introduced to John at an event, and as you've just alluded to, right within five minutes of speaking with him I could see his passion and his enthusiasm, and he was one of the few that was doing it...

Not one of the few.

He was one of the many.

That I shouldn't say one of the few, one of the many that does it from his heart, and he does it 'cause he really loves his students.

And we automatically had a rapport, and our rapport was we wanna do everything we possibly can to support the future of young people in hospitality.

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