Yeah

... funny.

When he released it, he wanted it to be 13 inches tall so that it could be slightly taller than Barbie and a little bit different than Ken.

And Gay Bob was marketed as the first openly gay doll and made his retail debut in mail order catalogs.

He was sold in a cardboard box designed to look like a closet, which I love.

Uh, and his packaging proudly s- explained what coming out of the closet meant.

And it says, "Hi, boys and girls and grown-ups.

I'm gonna look it up right now while you're talking to me about it, 'cause I don't think I've heard about this one.

One of the challenges I'm seeing right now, I don't even know how to explain it really, is like... companies are really worried about facing some of these issues head on, right? So like they want to protect psychological safety, but how do you do that without lowering accountability and avoiding difficult conversations?

There is a difference between direct aggression and grievance and accountability.

And accountability is needed for grievance and whatnot.

But quite often with HR, I think there's a missed opportunity, especially, or work and culture and people in general, organizational dynamics.

We... are fearful to have a conversation on rupture and repair.

It is much easier, actually, to document and hold somebody in a punitive place and say, you shouldn't do that, don't do that again.

And I've sat in those rooms, and it's a shame because you're instilling shame.

Yeah, I don't even start like this a lot.