What do you make of how Ross has adapted Katie's style in the programme over the last 10 years?

Yeah, Ross has done his, Ross has his style.

I have my style.

For me, it wouldn't have been the same, you know, because I prefer Katie using her feet.

You know, I know everybody says in professional boxing, sit down on your punches.

But I think what makes you great, makes you great.

So if you've got great legs, why take them away from you? You know, that way.

Even, I think, Rigondo, the Cuban, was having a bit of a move around.

If you're not scared when you're being brave, then you're not being brave, are you? You're just doing stuff.

I'm a huge advocate and part of the process that I will take men through is actually looking at levels of consciousness.

And five years ago, I was asked me about consciousness.

I was going, what the fuck is that? And now that I've done such deep research on this and now knowing that the levels of consciousness and how they impact our lives and the two real things that we need to be thinking about is power and force.

And force really being a way that the vast majority of the world operates.

And what that looks like in reality on a consciousness level is anything that's below fear.

So whenever we're in fear, we're in a place of force.

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