So what are your thoughts on herbicides or your herbicide philosophy, Pete?

Well, it's funny because mine has evolved over time.

I was initially, no, I don't want to use chemicals.

I don't want to use herbicides.

And that's because most of what I knew was from conventional farming, which is farming transgenic crops that are that are gene edited to withstand being sprayed with glyphosate and not metabolizing it.

And so it's glyphosate used that way just gets into the environment.

There's so much is applied.

Have you had any experience with that?