... and really charming

... he's h- he's hilarious.

He's also very, very good at broadcasting and, and, um, I'm hoping, I would love to try and get something where he's interested in trying to make a thing in, in China with, with, with us about, uh, about the, the rise of the, or the second rise of the Chinese Super League because a lot of the players he played with now, or quite a few of them, um, like Muscat, Ian Walker.

There's some other ones as well.

Off the top of my head I can't remember.

They're all coaching out in China right now.

[laughs] Um, so it was, you know, he's, he's a very interesting guy, a very good broadcaster as well.

Yeah.