I guess the question in my head is always at what point does a barber stop being just behind the chair and go it alone? When do you do that studio move? When was it for you? Was it very clear that you had to make that change to be an important for you to work solo?

Yeah, I think for me it was, it came, you know, when I opened my studio, I'd been cutting hair for a long time, a long, long time.

But the point came for me where I just knew I was ready to work on my own.

It was just, I knew I'd work better in that way.

And I remember when I initially decided to do it, I spoke to Dan at Salon International and I was telling him my idea.

And yeah, it just felt right and it was something that I wanted to do.

The clients that I was dealing with, I knew I'd feel more comfortable giving them a service in a more personal environment.

Do you think Instagram, maybe more a question for you predominantly, do you find Instagram's important? Do you think reviews are important? Google Ads, should people be spending on sponsored ads to get customers through? What's your feelings about the social media to find clients, not to just show off your haircut to another barber?