There had to be,

how do you make your next chapter even better than your last when you've done something that people around you didn't think was possible already? Mm.

And it was, I can remember I used to sit on those board meetings with the ISA and I'd not speak.

And I'd been voted to be there.

And there was 12, I think 12, a number of headteachers around the table representing the country.

And I'd go there and I was surrounded by, and brilliant people, but middle aged, white, middle class, all been to Oxford, Cambridge.

And I'd had my first child when I was very young and I had a bit of a chip on my shoulder and I didn't really feel that I belonged.

So is that based on that culture kind of stats? Did you base it on that or did you kind of just naturally feel that and then you've resonated so much with that sort of stat?

What does it mean?

Sure.

So I suppose BNZ has been supporting the agri sector for 165 years.

In fact, they were our first customers.

So really proud to have a long support and relationship with agri across New Zealand.

It's the backbone of New Zealand.

Something that's often talked about in the sector is how do you ensure that you've got capability continuing to come through? And so what we've been announcing recently is a bit of a support package for those who want to get into their first farm.

How important is that feedback from your agribusiness managers around where farmers need support?

What does it mean?

Sure.

So I suppose you'd say, um, BNZ has been supporting the agri sector for 165 years.

In fact, they were our first customers.

Um, so really proud to have a long, um, support and relationship with agri across New Zealand.

It's the backbone of New Zealand.

Um, something that's often talked about in the sector is how do you ensure that you've got capability continuing to come through? And so what we've been announcing recently is, is a bit of a support package for, for those who wanna get into their first farm.

How important is that feedback from your agri-business managers around where farmers need support?