Mm-hmm.

You know, the pain of what I experienced in my daily life, I went, "You know, that's not something you wanna keep going," you know? [laughs] You don't wanna remind yourself or anybody else of it.

Of course, you have to do a lot of therapy afterwards to heal your, your emotional body and all, all that, but, um, I just, I just kept it clear and I said, "Uh, you know, I'm gonna make it through.

I'm gonna make it through.

When I can leave, I'm gonna start on my mission.

You know, I'm gonna get out there and I'm gonna do my mission," which morphed in different ways, you know? It, um, uh, I went into psychology and sociology studies in college, but then I realized this is all about studies.

It's all about research papers.

Mm-hmm.

Yes.

And so if you said Animal Communication Mystery Series, you would get people into their own mystery and how to unveil it, and really, that's what it's all about.

Um, I'll tell you about my, uh, communication, uh, how it began, and, uh, basically, I've been communicating with animals my whole life.

And by communicating, I don't mean I've just talked to them.

A lot of people talk to animals or at animals, but I've listened to them, and we've had conversations my, my whole life.

And what is a little bit different, uh, is that most people give it up when they're socialized that human language, uh, verbal language is the only thing that matters, and, um, humans are the only ones that matter, [laughs] that's big in the socialization.

And, uh, but I didn't give it up.

After you s- after we start with the, some of the unlearning, what's step one for people to learn about animal communication?

Hmm.

Okay.

And as they progress, they gradually realize we're all the same thing.

We're all one.

And it's not just our s- uh, what people call spiritual nature.

Physical nature is the same.

We're all the same.

Right.