Let's zoom out even further and go, how could these chunks of time look different and then how can i make that a reality which is yeah i guess that's nice to lead to my next question is i think obviously these things sound amazing but how do you make it reality how do you make it reality where you go hey half my year is you know focused on these interim gigs but then i've got these three months to travel because i think i imagine a lot of people listening like i'd love to do that but how is it possible how do you make it possible what how do you engineer your life so you get that level of freedom what kinds of things are you thinking about to make it happen

So the key thing to understand is I have a husband and a daughter and also a dog as well.

And so I have to factor them in.

So sometimes that means I might be doing a little bit of travel alone or with friends.

But usually we make it work.

So, you know, anyone who's got kids, you've got more than three months with the school holidays inbuilt.

So it doesn't, you know... what's important is what is success to you? So when I'm talking about my travel time, some years it's been three months together.

What's it about? Who's it for? And yeah, tell us more.

So do you think that the birth order for you and the family that you were born into was a key moment? And has there been any others that have shaped the person you are today?

Yeah, I definitely think because we're effectively the control group for nature versus nurture because it's five girls in six years.

Wow.

So there's not much difference that my parents could have really undertaken in terms of how to raise us.

But, I mean, there were still the big girls and the little girls and my sister in the middle and all of us are blonde and my sister in the middle had brown hair.

So she was a bit of a, you know.

Little child.

So I'd love if you can share what they are and how they're enhancing your overall wellbeing and your personal growth.