Tell me more about relaxing into it more than you could.

Um, so that wall that usually would come up is, like, definitely softened a lot and is more, like, partially there versus, like, hard, like, always there.

I've worked on just, like, trying to enjoy, uh, in the moment versus overthinking things.

How is it similar? How is it different?

Uh, I definitely have more brakes.

Like I put on the brakes definitely more with like, "Oh, I'm enjoying this," and then I like, "Oh." And just, you know, realizing.

I'm like, "I don't need to have ...

I can just enjoy, and that's okay, too." [laughs] And yeah, you never like ...

Uh-huh.

And going through this, it was definitely like, oh, I think I'm not letting myself feel pleasure.

Like, not consciously, but it's just...

And I started notice that when I would try and, like, that would happen, not stopping, but, like, trying to be, "No, this is okay.

This is good." And, like, minutely being able to feel more pleasure and continue.

So it's definitely like, I think it's, I have to unlearn the process.

I know it's gonna take a bit, as long as I keep trying, though.

And things are feeling good.

Tell me about how that's going, how far you're into it.

I'm not crazy far.

I think at most, like, 50 pages, but I'm trying to, like, make sure there's, like, the homework sections.

So I'm trying not to get too far ahead without doing the homework.They're talking about the good girl syndrome still, and like how to get past it and all that.

So it's going pretty good.

Definitely like having...

Now they have you write down like what you think about sex and the various, and what you l- how you learn and stuff.

That's good.

That's what I think of when you said what you said.

Yeah.

Just am I gonna be comfortable with everything that Steve would wanna do? But he's been a lot better about being okay with the level I'm comfortable with, so I think it's...

some of it's residual beginning of marriage.

Or, like, how we talked about, like, "Okay, I'm just gonna assume we won't have sex, but if it happens, all right, great." But just felt like, okay, each time we have just have fun, it should turn into sex, so.

Like what's coming to mind?

I don't know if I can see he's stressed, maybe try and find ways to maybe make things fun and more flirty before it gets to a head, and see if we can change the atmosphere of how we approach it to begin with instead of wait till it gets to, "I'm stressed.

Oh, no," for me, and, and we try and head things off and to where we can both have fun.

Can you tell me more about what those expectations are?

I guess do the right things, move the right way, make the right noises, which I don't do right now.

[laughs] Um, make sure he feels pleasure and that I guess I do the things that make me look like I'm enjoying myself so that you will be happy with it.

I think more in the beginning of our marriage, I felt more pressure of that.

But I mean, not as much now, but I think it still feels that way, but not from you, but it's still in there, so.

This is where it unravels for me.

me.I guess some of it might be was I in the mood to start this? Did it come out of the blue? Am I distracted with other things to begin with? Like, if Steve just wants to all of a sudden make out and I haven't had the chance to just turn off my mom brain, I could see that being part of it.

But I'm also, why can't I just enjoy a random make out session with my husband? Why do I have to turn off my mom brain? I guess maybe part of me is just taking that next step of enjoying it might be hard and it's work, and sometimes I'm just like, I just want it to be natural instead of having to work at everything, I guess.

Let's hurry downstairs and watch it.

Stop crowding.

Hold onto the handrail and watch your step.

Oh no, someone stepped on my shoe.

Pick it up later, little zebra.

It is dangerous to pick it up now.