And I think the key question on this project is, Paul, is this land transfer in the best interest of the American public and the National Park Service? And can you tell us a little bit more than what we know about the Hazel Green land transfer? Well, Eric, thanks for the softball

to start up.

I mean, come on now, right? Way to dive right into it.

Can we back up for just a quick moment and acknowledge that you have a former acting deputy superintendent in Yosemite on a climbing podcast.

I mean, just think about how far we've come.

And I think that's attributable to NPS leadership and the climbing community and the fact that we, you know... long ago uh the days of the rangers chasing away the climbers um has since passed and now we have a former deputy who has climbed lcap twice who basically got the job because of my climbing background so um it's good to be here it's good to collaborate with you um it's just it shows the type of advocacy people like you have done so i'm not filibustering i just want to come on and acknowledge that uh It's great to be friends with you and a great advocate of Access Fund.

So I think you just asked the all-important question, although I might phrase it slightly different just to match the statutory language.

If that's possible, I think you