Paul, what do you make of it?

I'm sitting nodding my head, listening to what Jermaine's saying, and I'm watching it, and again, I never want to be too critical of players because I can't do what they do, and I understand and appreciate how hard sport is at that top level.

as Sinead just said, he's had two seasons, so this is his second season.

It's not like he's just jumping in and he's just learning how to find the ropes in the English Premier League.

He's had a full season of it, a tough season as well, so you would expect him to be a bit more stronger, tougher, For me, I agree totally with what Jermaine was saying in the sense that I'm watching him and then it's a simple-ish pass.

I mean, he plays the wrong ball and then you sit him with your head in your hands because I don't want to get on the kid's back.

I don't want to start slagging him off and having a go at him.

Absolutely sure.

You think for a young kid like that, you know, coming to Liverpool, it's not going to be easy, is it, coming to a new league? But having been Virgil alongside you is probably a good, probably fills him with so much confidence, doesn't it, having Virgil to his left-hand side?

Yeah, and I think the key is what you've just said.

For some players, that would be daunting, playing next to Van Dijk.

Some players would be in awe.

Some players would be worried, nervous to make mistakes because you're playing next to them.

He's taken it the other way, which shows you he's a top player as well.

He's taken it as, well, I want to try and get to that level and...

days.

Your Liam as well has been mentioned, your brother as a potential opponent.

Yeah, Liam's been mentioned, Chris Eubanks.

I personally would, not just because of Liam, I personally would not want to see a third fight between the two.

I think that's been done and dusted, I think one apiece.

I think both of them, well, Chris obviously was past his best, which enabled Conor to win the second fight.

And I personally don't have the desire to watch a third fight, a fight with someone like Liam, who has lost his last fight and is looking for a way back.

We call them cross-sold fights in boxing.

What are you making of all that, the fallout and the two promoters going at

And apparently, the cameras didn't pick it up, but they were saying in commentary, Paul, that apparently he's gone away celebrating like he's got the goal.

I hope he has.

Listen, I'm delighted for the lad.

And I was happy when I seen his name on the sheet because he's been better in that one game than Frimpong has this season.

I thought Kierkegaard, I think he's very erratic on the other side.

That was also an issue people kept saying when they were leaving the match.

People online, people on social media, people on the pundits and analysts.

Is there a nice kind of pass up around Red Harbour, Merseyside early season?

You know, I still just, I still can't believe they haven't got out there and bought a more defensive-minded midfield player, mate.

Yeah, listen, let's look at it a glass half full.

We've just signed Barcola.

We've got a good defender coming from Barcelona.

As you just said, you know, Jeremy Jackie looks like a really good player and we're still all disappointed because it's not the best window because of the outgoings as well.

And I think we've, Jermaine's totally right what he's saying.

I agree with him and obviously... we're leaving we're looking vulnerable in the full-back position especially on the right if didn't pong gets injured which inevitably he's gone to he got injured last year a couple of times i think it's it's gonna happen you know it's a long season then it's was like having to fill in or someone else like curtis jones has gone now he can't be filling in there we've lost curtis jones in the middle and and there's not been anything to come in and replace it and yeah it's a considering we just brought back badly back all and it's it's still a disappointment that probably says it all is where we all are as the pool fans are we're very demanding at the moment and i think this and hopefully they click into place and and we start winning instead of the draws we've been having and we see good results and good performances and then the confidence of kicking the players because i think that's one of the biggest things from from last season there's just no confidence and there wasn't any last season i think if the players get a bit of confidence and start playing well together, then that might improve.

So I'm always kind of, I think the club have done the right thing to keep hold of Cody Gatpoe.

But is he feeling pretty confident,

Hergovich, you sense? Yeah, he is.

We asked them some questions, and I asked them not to ruin the show too much, but I asked them, is it winding you up a little bit that you're the far more experienced and established fighter, but you're a massive underdog? He's 8-1 on.

At times 7-1, he's 8-1 to win the fight.

Right.

Just to win the fight, Hergovic, in a 2-0 race, in a fight that I think is a very, very good and competitive fight.

Their mods, I think, are wrong.

Does Atalma beat Fury and Joshua?

You must be sat there thinking, hang on a minute, man, what's crack here?

And just to add salt in the wounds, there's a rematch close.

And you've got to sit and wait.

As I say, it's not... what does my head in and what winds me up the most about all of this isn't the titles isn't the sanctioning fees isn't the the queue jumper isn't this and that's what we're talking about the queue jumper so we'll get back to that what makes you think you can come back and compete at world title level when you're that old and you've retired for that long you've been retired for that long and you retired when it wasn't there anymore yes let's say five years ago whether it was yeah yeah fair you know there's a saying in in in one of the rocky movies and i laughed me out of every time he goes you haven't peaked you and it's like if you still got this stuff knock around the basement to think that you can come back and fight and compete to that level i'm seeing vladimir critical talk about coming back yeah you were done five years ago minimum like what makes you think you can come back when mike tyson was doing exhibitions i'm fine with an exhibition if manny pacquiao was to have an exhibition against the young current fighter i'm fine with that as long as it builds as that yeah this is a potential against the best in the world it doesn't sit right with me but the fact that these fighters coming back at the age that they're coming back one of them's gonna get it bad and then every one of us or every one of them boxers will be thrown in all boxing's brutal boxing's it's brutal enough it's barbaric enough it's a tough sport it's hard your brain's not meant to be punched your head's not meant to be punched your hands are not meant to punch people But they're doing it and they're risking their lives doing it.

Don't sort of make the odds even more against you.

You don't mean to make it more dangerous? You don't need to do it that dangerous.

But then what is it? Is it financial reasons? Because that I can understand if it is.

They've got a little bit of something there, but do they have the whole package to go and become the superstar? The Whittaker