How have you got here?

It's been a bit of a ride, yeah.

I don't know, I could probably do a really whistle-stocked tour.

I was once accused of oversharing but doing it in a way that doesn't go too deep.

So chronologically, I grew up in Stoke-on-Trent in an environment of quite severe domestic violence and child abuse.

And then at the age of 12, that kind of morphed into me being put to work.

So my dad found me work for two quid an hour washing caravans.

that element of hope again, what role has that played for you? Yeah.