one word i've heard perhaps more than any other is collaboration could the model of collaboration being used here also help the railway adapt to a new world of greater integration under great british railways paul maynard is vice president project delivery for hitachi rail srs uk

Yeah, certainly.

When I'm in the room every month, I don't think I'm coming there with my Atachi badge on.

And I think the other people in the room are the same.

We're there for the industry.

We're there for the UK.

You know, we're coming together for a purpose and a reason, not just we're coming there as companies to make money.

So can you just tell us a bit to sort of set the scene about that constituency and what some of the challenges are?

Well, everybody's opinion on Blackpool often.

You say Blackpool, they think illuminations, they think Strictly Come Dancing.

They might think, you know, oh, I used to go there on my holidays.

And I always say to people, you go five yards back, 50 yards back, maybe from the bit that does come to mind.

and you are in some of the poorest parts of the country.

And it's really odd in a way that it has a Tory MP.

but you've seen it from both sides so you know you've seen ministers talk about we need pension funds to be investing in uk infrastructure and then you know you you you started talking a minute ago about okay it takes a minister to get involved to join up two uh bits of the system that should have been talking anyway you know like is infrastructure in the uk a good investment for uk pension funds you know given your experience of uh you know being transport minister