How did that idea come up and talk about it a little bit during the years that it happened?

Yeah, sure.

My wife worked for a time with Downtown Tempe Authority, and she was doing placemaking and events.

And through that work, she put on the Sixth Street Market and other, you know, the festivals, and she would book musicians and so on.

And that's probably when...

You got to know her, but also we owned the little store behind the Newman Center at College University called Here on the Corner.

And she would have some music there also periodically.

OK.