So it's not almost starting with Genesis and where does this go? It's starting with the Gospel, and what does this tell us about how we should understand Genesis?

I think one of the great strengths of the creationist viewpoint is that it focuses our attention on the historicity of Scripture, the historicity of that storyline of redemption, right from the very beginning.

And I mean, that's obviously why it's so contested.

But so often what we find is that evangelicals just seem to lose their nerve when it comes to the beginning of the story.

You know, we see that they're quite happy to affirm historicity throughout the scripture, but once it gets back before the time of abraham it all gets kind of shadowy prehistory you know we're all familiar with those bible charts where you have all the dates you know all the historical dates back to abraham and then there's kind of question marks before abraham and um This, I think, is a real blind spot among conservative evangelicals.

James Barr, who was no fundamentalist, he was a professor of Hebrew at Oxford.

I mean, frankly, he didn't care whether the Bible was true or not.

What's the best way for us to make these kinds of connections now?

So it's not almost starting with Genesis and where does this go? It's starting with the Gospel, and what does this tell us about how we should understand Genesis?

I think one of the great strengths of the creationist viewpoint is that it focuses our attention on the historicity of Scripture, the historicity of that storyline of redemption, right from the very beginning.

And I mean, that's obviously why it's so contested.

But so often what we find is that evangelicals just seem to lose their nerve when it comes to the beginning of the story.

You know, we see that they're quite happy to affirm historicity throughout the scripture, but once it gets back before the time of abraham it all gets kind of shadowy prehistory you know we're all familiar with those bible charts where you have all the dates you know all the historical dates back to abraham and then there's kind of question marks before abraham and um This, I think, is a real blind spot among conservative evangelicals.

James Barr, who was no fundamentalist, he was a professor of Hebrew at Oxford.

I mean, frankly, he didn't care whether the Bible was true or not.

What's the best way for us to make these kinds of connections now?

So it's not almost starting with Genesis and where does this go? It's starting with the Gospel, and what does this tell us about how we should understand Genesis?

I think one of the great strengths of the creationist viewpoint is that it focuses our attention on the historicity of Scripture, the historicity of that storyline of redemption, right from the very beginning.

And I mean, that's obviously why it's so contested.

But so often what we find is that evangelicals just seem to lose their nerve when it comes to the beginning of the story.

You know, we see that they're quite happy to affirm historicity throughout the scripture, but once it gets back before the time of abraham it all gets kind of shadowy prehistory you know we're all familiar with those bible charts where you have all the dates you know all the historical dates back to abraham and then there's kind of question marks before abraham and um This, I think, is a real blind spot among conservative evangelicals.

James Barr, who was no fundamentalist, he was a professor of Hebrew at Oxford.

I mean, frankly, he didn't care whether the Bible was true or not.

What's the best way for us to make these kinds of connections now?

So can you take us back to your transition into higher ed, and what surprised you most coming from the outside into this wonderful industry?

Yeah, absolutely.

Um, you know, my background, my degree is in music business, and, and so a lot of my experience is from the music industry in a, in a variety of capacities, have a lot of nonprofit experience as well.

But most of my time has been, again, in, in the tech software space.

And so, you know, the transition into higher ed was not something I'd ever really even considered.

Um, I was at a point in my career where, you know, some changes with the company I was with, um, kind of, not pushed me out, but kind of made me rethink what I was spending my time doing, and this opportunity came up, and jumped all over it.

Um, so, you know, there was a big learning curve.

Yeah

that.

Yeah, you know, with our comms team specifically, you know, it's with writing, you know, it's the creative side just being really timid about AI.

And I don't blame them, right? Like we have hired them as a human to do a job.

And I firmly believe that those humans still need to be sitting on this floor doing that job that they've been hired to do.

And so we've kind of taken the human AI, human approach, you know, that a lot of folks have done.

So let's have a human idea.

Let's use some AI to help enhance and, you know, ask questions and bounce things off of and make sure that we're dialing in the right outcome.

And I think what the seniors are looking for and are kind of comfortable with, yeah, just changes because it becomes more, stakes are higher.