Can you share examples of hardware now used aboard Orion?

We had a couple items.

Two of the most prominent ones are early on, we actually had a detailed test objective payload type experiment that we flew to ISS that was related to what we call phase change material.

Essentially, it's a thermal system that uses a wax material that you melt to absorb heat in a thermal system, and then the wax can be frozen again, and that allows you to essentially have some supplemental heat rejection and absorption capability within the system.

One of the things we didn't know at the time was exactly how the pressures and that build up in that wax as it freezes and thaws.

You can imagine with water, obviously, everybody knows you put water in a bottle and freeze it.

You can start blowing up bottles and breaking them.

For Orion, are they any different?

So is that gonna be your focus on the first day, is tying those kinda two styles?

Yes, it is.

I'm gonna think I'll do the chironomids and the leeches first.

Uh, I tie a, a chironomid that's a...

I've seen it before from people up in Canada, but it's...

Again, I've modified it a little bit, but it uses an, an anti-static bag material, ABS they call it, for a base, and then it'll be ribbed with a, a brown or a wine colored wire.

And then, uh, it uses a brown bead because most of chironomids have a brown head.

So like fishing, like if you wanted to fish Henry's Lake, you would do a session on here's what it's gonna, what it's gonna be like.