Jablonski chasing you around.

But it's fun, man.

Like I got to give credit to G and also like working with Barstool, like that whole staff.

like they put the whole show on and set it, everything up and organize it.

And they're so good to us.

And we're so grateful.

And, and then of course, G because G was the one who was getting into roller hockey and mentioned, Hey, we should do this.

I tried

What have you seen from Auston Matthews so far?

So yeah, I've, I, I've seen a bunch of people talking online about it, too.

I don't know if they've exactly, like, uh, um, like, they've been very vocal about it, 'cause it's not something you wanna, like, say publicly.

I think they've done a better job of, of not forcing him to carry the puck as much, which, like, man, he's a shooter.

Like, let him be who he is, right? So obviously the loss of Marner forced him kind of more into that role.

Also, the argument of, of how he was being used with Berube in a sense of I think Chief was just kind of develop his, more of his defensive game, and put more on him, uh, more responsibility, more responsibility on him defensively, like more D zone draws, where it's like, you know, I, I feel like they've done a good job of kind of reloading and, and, and obviously the surrounding, uh, th- them with better talent, and being fortunate enough to add McKenna to the mix.

Um, but uh, no, he's, he's, he's shooting the puck better.

Is this a good team, or are they just entertaining?

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... heart sh- heart-shaped jacuzzi.

I brought a couple girls in, and, and Commie stayed back with a bunch of the boys at the roulette table.

And after I had my session upstairs, I ended up coming down and seeing them all, and they'd just finished at the tables.

And I think, like, the least amount that a guy had won was, like, 15 grand.

Commie-

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... as far as that, like, I got all that out of my system.

It feel, it feels like you guys have been toes with an organization or two.

No, it's...

Yeah.

We, we, we have been, and I guess it's, like, kinda weird because Biz and I got real no desire to be, like, causing a ruckus in organizations.

But we seem to do it every year But we seem...

But, but last year with the Columbus head coach, he ended up getting fired based on, like, a report and something Biz had heard, and it snowballed when research was done into something where a coach was fired right before the season.

And then this year, um, I talked about the Boston Bruins star goalie Jeremy Swayman, young, uh, maybe 25, I don't know exactly his age, but just became, like, a star in the league.

Yeah.

... it's something I would love to do again

...

so basically you, you'd start your morning, you'd probably get there by, like, uh, early to mid-afternoon.

You, you know, take a dip, you go set up your campground.

And then I would, I would recommend just hanging out that night and going by the Mooney Falls and, like, whatever.

If you, if you like to have a couple beers, you like to have a smoke or whatever, even just enjoy it, go watch sunset and hang out by the cliff at Mooney Falls.

'Cause I wouldn't, I wouldn't go do, like, what you would end up doing the next day or the third day that night, 'cause you're probably gonna be a little bit gassed.

In partnership with DraftKings, the crown is-

Yeah,

like when you're...

Yeah, I would say before contact became a thing.

I wasn't sure.

My goal was at that point to just become good enough to maybe get like a Canadian scholarship.

and help my parents out where they wouldn't have to pay for my schooling.

And then I could get a job out of there, no debt, right? That was the goal.

Where are you? In a rink somewhere?

But w- like, an exciting last few weeks coming off the heels of Carolina winning the Cup, pretty crazy.

A- and I just, I think it's an opportunity, like, as opposed to maybe some Canadians being frustrated by, like, what's actually happening, right? And keep in mind, I don't dictate that.

And I said on the podcast, it's a blessing to play in Canada.

It's pretty cool to play in a place where, like, it's hockey, hockey, hockey, and you are like the New York Yankees in every city that you play in.

They, they treat you, as Marner said, you, they treat you like gods, and that's a fact.

But you're looking at the reality now of you have to maybe take her, take her a little bit easy on the media front.

Like, look what happened with JT Mitter, m- m- uh, Miller and Pettersson.

What do you got planned here?

What year did you start Biz Nasty and Biz Nasty 2.0 on social media?

I was very anti-Twitter because just Charles Barkley was on TV saying, like, oh, that Twitter's nonsense.

And I'm like, OK, well, if Charles is saying it's stupid, I'm not going to sign up for it.

After my second or third year in Phoenix, I was like, oh, let's try this out.

And I signed on as originally Biz Nasty.

And then I was saying crazy shit, definitely things I wouldn't say now.

And I got myself in a little bit of trouble with the original one.

Can you, like, pull your teeth out? No, when I met

Yeah.

Um, and you know, I, I, I, I was actually, I got a call from Sean Avery yesterday and he kinda got venting, and I agree with him.

He's like, "Why do they just keep recycling the same guys over and over and over?" And I, that's kinda something, I mean, as much as things change with the NHL, some things stay the same.

And, um, same thing goes with Babcock's name coming up for the, for the Oilers job, right? It's like I think that there are probably a lot better younger coaches out there that should be given an opportunity because y- I think that you need to put time and energy to connect with the younger players.

Like, that's just kind of the expectation now because of the way that the world has evolved.

Like, that's why Martin St. Louis is having success.

Yes, he played at that level.

Wagon.

I hope it's Freddy too

...

but it's not as easy as just, all right, Anderson's done.

But Bussey looked better.

Anderson ...

Now, Botman will probably say they didn't play anyone, right? Montreal, Philly, Ottawa, so it's easy for Anderson to look good.

This series he gave up five in the first game.

That's all six.

You did something else and now you're known for something else other than being an athlete, which is really cool.

Yeah, I'm always interested in more and what life has to offer.

So as much as I love my hometown of Welland, Ontario, I always knew there was more out there and more I wanted to do.

The same reason why at 16 years old, when I was drafted to junior, I moved away from home and I lived with the Billet family.

I never even called home for the first three weeks while we had training camp and stuff.

I dove right in.

I didn't get homesick because I knew that If you wanted to achieve anything in life, you were going to have to go outside your comfort zone and do it.

How's it for you guys?

Mm-hmm.

Uh, and he has 13 goals now in the Stanley Cup playoffs, and he only had 12 in the regular season.

Like, there's only, I believe, seven players throughout the course of history in the Stanley Cup playoffs, over 100 years, uh, that have scored ...

This is a, a stat for anyone over 10 goals in the playoffs.

Only, only seven times has a player had more in playoffs than the regular season when it's over the amount of 10.

So pretty remarkable stat.

Uh, he's been absolutely on fire.

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What do you make of this?

That's cool.

You talk about the scrutiny some of these guys coming in.

When he was the first overall pick, all of a sudden all the bright lights are on him.

You're in Chicago, a huge football market.

And to watch the season last year they had, and I'm not privy to a lot of the names in football.

watching the interactions after the games between like him, his teammates and the coach specifically, like that's pretty special.

What is it about, what about hockey doesn't get talked about enough? Like what is like, what don't hockey players get enough love for?

Mm-hmm.

Um, and that's why also, like, it's gonna be a great series.

I'm not trying to take anything away from Carolina.

I just don't feel like they've been as tested.

And ultimately Vegas, because they swept Colorado, who we all thought was the be- [laughs] the best team in hockey and who was gonna win the Stanley Cup, they were able to get rest as well.

So both teams I feel like are going into this well rested.

And I, I don't wanna take anything away from Carolina by picking Vegas, but I feel like they're just a little bit bigger, uh, a little bit stronger, and like I said, they have some superstars in certain positions where I give them slight edge in goal tending.

How does that happen?

Yeah

... especially if it is that forward having to take that...

In, in some cases it's four on four, where Svechn will be that last guy back because of how much they pressure.

I also feel on their reads, their D-man and/or their forward has not left the middle of the ice to go chase a guy to the outside of the dot stupidly.

And if they're doing it, they do have coverage locked up on that next layer.

So would I like to see Montreal do that more? Yeah, 'cause it worked for them in game one.

Game two and three, you found on the control breakouts, they were more hitting the, the low guy swinging, so they weren't doing that long stretch play anymore.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.Aho is in below the goal line and they already had another forward in b- below the goal line, and Svech just goes running in.

So boom, it's a clean three on two going back the other way.

They don't score off the initial three on two.

It goes wide to Caufield, then he pokes at it to keep it alive.

But Svech on the back check, he all of a sudden just runs straight back and goes below the goal line again with his stick in the air, and leaves the slot wide open.

So, like, overall that's just from Svech, he lost his brain.

they got in trouble with that

Okay

So, um, out of nowhere, like, so Brad Treliving, who was the f- cur, uh, the former Leafs GM, they just got rid of him with, like, a month left in the season.

They, they cut ties.

Um, I had him in Arizona.

He was our assistant GM there.

Loved him.

Like, great guy.

Right.

That, you paid a lot of dues to get there.

Yeah.

I mean, it obviously wasn't like the, the old school, old school days, but uh, it was kind of at the tail end.

I got a pretty funny story, and somebody showed me the video yesterday or maybe the day before.

It was me and Dan Carcillo.

Uh, and Carcy I think was a, a third rounder, second or third rounder to the Penguins.

I was a fourth rounder.

Yeah.

He knows he's there.

He knows that he's streaking, and he's going to the net.

So the minute that he one touches it, and like keeps possession to himself, when he's crossing the blue, sometimes you got that split second where that lane to pass it is open, right? And then i- as you're following through, you second-guess it and you're like, "Fuck, I got no one around me." Like, all this is being processed in your brain.

And th- this is what non-hockey people don't realize.

Like, you're processing that information about, okay, am I gonna, am I gonna take the risk to send that pass through right now to get him that puck for the breakaway? They, their, the, the defender was there, so if he gets a stick on it, the play's dead, right?

And Shane Whitney too, yeah

... are, are, are talking with the Canucks.

I would love to see those two guys work together.

I saw the report that he's ready to go.

He looks great and, uh, skating around right now.

I don't know if he'll be there game one.

At worst, I think game two, and then if you win game one, why even play him game two? Because chances are we're playing the Kings.

Uh, it sucks.

It, it's not, it's not brutal for an Oilers fan, because I think we'll dust them again.

It just su- I'm just so sick of playing the Kings.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

First question for you, who was the toughest guy you fought in the jungle? Second question, what was the most insane place you played in the jungle?

Oh, so I'll start with that one.

So I played in the ECHL, the Cheese Toast League, and I played with the Wheeling Mailers in Wheeling, West Virginia, old school mining town.

So we used to go to Toledo and Toledo in the ECHL has a beautiful new rink.

But back then it was, I think, one of the oldest professional rinks they have.

The Zamboni.

like it was, I think it was like one of like the, like the first hundred Zambonis ever made.

Yeah, I know we've had, we just had, we had Helly on the other day who gave it to his psychologist, right, Brady? Or like a mental coach, right? And so just some,

Are we done here yet?

The four-second pause.

Yeah, they got you.

I got an anthem story for you.

You ever heard the Ray Whitney anthem story? No, please do.

He would get his parents in town, and I guess they were famous for their cabbage rolls.

And, you know, he was in the starting lineup, and he's on the blue line, the anthem's going, and, you know, he thought it was going to be a fart, and the next thing you know, he's all the way down his leg, right? But the thing is, though, this is one of the best hockey stories going, and James Duffy put it in his book, and obviously Ray Whitney tells it way better.

You like what

If you got guys that are playing really well and they're good here, be careful shaking the foundation.

I really feel like they need puck moving defensemen.

That's what they're really lacking.

And he's probably one of the better ones, if not the best one on the team.

as we speak and you know culture guy left-handed shot can also play the right side so for him to make three and a half million I would not like to see him go uh McMahon's the other guy everyone keeps talking about and I can understand why he's just a big guy he could four check like a moose he's he's big and and you know he can score you some goals so I kind of view him like almost like a like a leckanen move when when Colorado went and got him maybe maybe not quite as agile and maybe not a guy that you would want consistently in your top six, but as a third-line guy who can then get bumped up.

And the other name that keeps coming up is Scotty Lawton, who, once again, I don't know what he's asking for and his agent and what the price tag is.

another culture guy that you want to keep around because he just lightens the mood.

he one of those guys gets access to everything, and you know he's already got the will, so he's going to be out? So,

That looked bad.

I wouldn't s- I wouldn't say they struggled.

I think that the Czechs played the game of their life.

Uh, uh, they have, they have an incredible goalie, uh, Gudas, Radko Gudas, a guy who, w- who Jans was pumping the pod before, uh, 'cause you mentioned his name.

He's like, "If you, if you had six of him on your team on the back end, you'd win a gold medal." Well, he played the game of his life, and they did a really good job of shutting down the red line and the blue line, forcing Canada to dump it, and it, it, it changed things up a little bit.

So, um, I thought it w- it was a great game, but ultimately, Canadians prevailed.

They, they got through it without Sidney Crosby, which was a, a, a catastrophic injury.

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