Freaking

amazing.

Yeah.

And she is not goals by any stretch of the imagination.

I would in no capacity be able to keep up with everything.

She has founded so many organizations.

Wow.

Women and queer folk.

Can you unpack this metaphor a little bit for me of the, the midwife and the new world, both halves of the metaphor?

Well, could we talk i- in movements, you know, mo- movement building and movement spaces, we talk a lot about, you know, emerging worlds and world build, you know, world building.

We talk a lot about world building.

And I think worlds ...

I, I don't know that we're necessarily building worlds.

I think worlds are coming, and we can choose to be part of their emergence or not.

And midwives, I mean, I ha- I went to high school with, I, I had, have a high school friend who became a midwife.

Yes