So yoga therapist, public educator, how did that all lead to you becoming someone who's stopped to smell the roses, someone who notices? Tell us a little bit about that journey.

Yes, it's an interesting question.

My time in public education was very rewarding, and I worked with a great group of people.

So it was not only the day-to-day rewarding sense of forming young minds, so to speak, but I got to work with people with whom I had a good time and learned from.

I also, during that time, had kids, attended soccer games, went to graduate school, and And ultimately can, in hindsight, see that it was a grind.

I loved it, but it was a grind.

So when I left that field, I was working on my doctorate during that time.

And