How did you convince them, Patrick, that you're going to branch out and move to another country?

Have you convinced me again? I think the story is like that, right? When we actually decided to focus on utility project development in Australia, also, we have actually decided to close down the wholesale distribution business, right? Because obviously, we wanted to put all the resources into the project development.

However, we have actually realized that, you know, there are actually a lot of, you know, renewable opportunities in Southeast Asia, right? In fact, we were invited by, I think, is it...

thai government or yeah i think it's a thai government right there was a conference back in 2016 or 15 i cannot remember the exact year but we were invited so both me morris and our one of the other business partner you know attended the conference we actually learned a lot about you know what the energy markets are like, you know, in Southeast Asia, what are the opportunities, you know, whether it's, you know, CNI rooftop behind the meter or, you know, grandma utility.

Right.

And we actually put up with few people.

I think developers right from from Philippines, they also attended that conference.

patrick uh morris already touched on this a while ago about the solar bva but if you can expand in how for example your your clients have benefited from a solar PPA and a zero capex is what you're offering.