Now, Patrick, do you think that the way the education system is, it's intentional? Is it actually intentional for them? Is it actually an intentional thing for them wanting to remove things or basically take away a child's ability to be creative before they get into adulthood? Or is it just along the line, we all just forgot being creative is important?

Yeah, that's even more complex, Blessed.

It is.

After looking at this for a long, long time, And my process of observing and studying how children begin to be pushed away from their creativity, and I call that creative colonization, there really does seem to be a sort of decision on the part of educational systems and school boards, et cetera, people who are making decisions on what the classroom is gonna be like, what the system of education, what the methodology is gonna be, what the testing is gonna be like, it really does seem like over the decades, and I'm talking about the last 50 years of education, More and more, these decisions are focusing on tests and using the tests to evaluate the teachers, to evaluate the students, to evaluate the school, to evaluate the school system.

And it's truly unfair to everybody involved, especially the children, but also the teachers.

So I do believe you're correct.

And I think in where you may have been forming the question is that there is at some level, and it's certainly not with the teachers, it's much higher up.

has The martial arts influence the way you think about creativity, discipline, and of course, innovation.

Can you explain that?

Sure.

This has to do with, Possibly a question you're getting to.

It's not lost.

It's misplaced because there have been processes in which it gets forced out of children's lives.

And this usually happens.

It's not always the case.

So what are the biggest obstacles preventing adults from expressing their creativity today?

Because I was about asking that, why do you think children seem naturally creative? Why adults often feel disconnected from creativity? but somehow you answered that but i would still like if you can explain shit more on that

Sure.

Yes.

What happens is that children just, these days, for sure, and it happened even when I was a kid, somewhat, a little bit less, kids just run out of time.

And they have so much responsibility in school that they don't have time to use their superpower.

They don't have time to simply play or simply use their imaginations or simply be creative.

And so when that happens, when children get so busy, they are sort of being forced to not use their superpower, which is definitely not a good thing.

When you go to a restaurant, you're using

I got a guy

where, you know, I have an airplane and we take off in the Cub and at the time, crawl over, sit on his lap, and I think my first log book entry was five years old because I could log time.

That's awesome.

Might have been 20 minutes and I think the entry said saw horses and cows in the Salmon River Valley so that must have been a big deal.

That's great.

So it was just part of the family experience and And it was always unique.

It was always fun flying in to support these ranchers or hunters.

At

What are some of the, you know, habits you could recommend, you know, that could, you know, really help this? Absolutely.

Yeah.

And I make a different description of practice.

I differentiate it in two ways.

There's practice with a lowercase p.

So it's things that we do and that we, in a way, kind of driving is a lowercase practice with lowercase p practice.

So it's not as thoughtful and...

So my question is, how does creativity influence leadership, entrepreneurship, innovation, and the way we navigate everyday life?

Patrick Williams of Adam Williams, a gallery in New York, told me that younger buyers are showing more interest, too.

I really couldn't have genuinely told you that we were seeing new people, young people, a general improvement in interest until the last two years.

Can you explain this idea and how they impact our personal and professional lives?

Absolutely.

So within that philosophy of creativity that I just mentioned, these terms are what I've developed over the years to describe how I believe creativity is lost or misplaced, so to speak.

And the creative colonization is the first term, and it's somewhat the most intense term to describe how I believe young children are internalized in their inner psyche is colonized.

So what I mean is that...

Because there's so much stress on academics within school systems these days, and it has been for quite a while, that the children's play, imagination, and creativity is pushed to the side, just as if a group of people are being colonized.

Their belief systems are being pushed to the side.

What practice can people adopt to restore and sustain authentic creativity in their everyday life?

Uh, can you just, uh, talk about that style and how it fits, uh, to the, the job that's, that's in front of, um, uh, the next, um, AHL coach in Laval?

Yeah, that, I mean, that sounds like Pascal to a T, right? Like, that's Pascal 15 years ago coming in as an assistant coach, uh, with the Jets.

Um, first NHL opportunity at the time, uh, learning.

Um, you know, and I think it's important to point out, like, when he came in there, uh, that was a pretty dysfunctional bunch, uh, I think as we all know.

And, um, you know, there was a lot of remnants from the time in Atlanta.

Uh, there were a lot of, um, s- call 'em strong personalities [chuckles] in that room.

Um, uh, so Pascal was able to really learn, kind of, uh, you know, see the good and the bad, uh, of how things should be run and, a- and all those different challenges that crop up.

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Oh, brilliant.

And I was so, I was so incredibly proud, of course, [laughs] um, because I thought what a wonderful connection that she's made, you know.

And of course, she'd grown up in Bath, and that's the only window type she knew probably.

Um, but it got me thinking about this idea of visual diet and how important those sorts of things are, you know, that when you are, um, enjoying proportion that, that, that relates to the human form, it feels right.

And I think with an awful lot of modern buildings, that proportion, um, for me, it, it, it doesn't quite work, and so I don't feel so comfortable in those spaces because the proportions aren't quite right.

But also, the materials are often, you know, quite hard and therefore don't feel, um...

I don't feel as a human being like they relate to me in the same way.

Mm-hmm

Why?

Uh, just because of its rich history- history.

Uh, Shumard Road market was the Queen's favorite market back in the day.

She's...

Her horses were stabled at the bottom of the road.

It had a lot of tradition for the working class area of Peckham.

And then in the, I would say late '60s to '70s, the immigration came over and they decided to open up their own shops so they had their histories, uh, history here.

What- what are they trying to impart to you in their stories, do you think?