Is that enough to address the concerns that you just walked us through?

I think the public has good reason to be concerned given recent expositions of what's going on at TPS and at other police services around the province.

So that we've seen in Ottawa in particular that there have been a series of allegations made against police officers who are unlawfully accessing databases ostensibly for the purpose or allegedly for the members of the opposite sex, women, some of them were observed outside of gyms, some of them were ex-sexual partners and so forth, that they were using access to privileged police information and privileged police databases to effectively and allegedly stalk those women.

That we've seen in TPS specifically, the issues around Project South and accessing databases illegally for the purposes of identifying a jail guard, who works for the province and has worked at Toronto South for some period of time, and target that individual allegedly for assassination.

We also know that we've had instances like body-worn camera videos being leaked that Last April, there was an incident where Toronto police officers lawfully, according to the SIU, shot a 16-year-old male who was in the backseat of a car.

And preemptorily to the SIU's investigation, someone at TPS, we have to presume someone leaked that video, the body-worn camera videos, without authorization to the press in a way that effectively, at least according to the SIU statements, preempted their investigation and perhaps unfairly biased the public perception of that shooting without proper inquiry leading into it.

So much as we have these safeguards, they're on these systems as well.

What would you propose?

I'm, I'ma let you roll out first.

Sure.

Yeah.

Basically, you know, um, uh, I- I've, I've been, uh, I've been studying astrology for the past, uh, 20 years, and, um, I, like many of you, uh, who are studying astrology seriously or even practice professionally, use Solar Fire, um, and, uh, have, have cycled through a few different astrological softwares.

And, um, in 2020 I first met John, and, uh, first it was as a, an astrologer client sort of relationship, but we really connected really well on, uh, a lot of different topics.

And, um, it sort of became clear to us over our continued discussions over the years that, um, there w- there had to be some other way that we'd be able to kind of work together, uh, in a more focused way.

And so in 2023, uh, there was kind of a convergence of, of, of interests, and John had this amazing idea to create a new astrology software based on his, uh, background in coding.

Like that

And then you later also did a, a lecture on goal year periods at NORWAC last year, I think, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

At NORWAC, uh, in 2025, I did do, uh, a talk on, uh, Babylonian goal years.

I was actually really stressed because I don't have a lot of, uh, talks in the tank.

Uh, every one I have, I have to really work to make happen.

I also am a bit of a perfectionist, and so I was really stressing about what topic to choose.

what they were picking up on, I think.

And before we jump into timing and zodiacal releasing and all of that, I would love to just ask you, how did you get to where you are? How did you find astrology and get into this journey?

I'll, uh, I'll make sure to give you the, the concise version.

But basically, uh, when I was about seven years old, I, uh, liked to read my horoscope in the Du- Reader's Digest.

Uh, I was born in the UK, and, uh, my mom's from the United States.

And I, uh, I didn't know, uh, what sign I should be reading for because my birthday is right be- on the, you know, the, the cusp basically of Libra and Scorpio.

So I asked my mother, "Well, am I a Libra sun or am I a Libra Scorp- you know, am I a sun in Scorpio?" And she said, uh, "Well, obviously you're a Libra sun." I'm like, "Well, how do you know?" And she said, "Well, I have your birth time." I'm like, "Well, how do you have that?" And she's like, "Well, I, I took down y- your time.

You know, I made sure that, uh, you know, your dad got your birth time because, you know, I wanted to cast your chart." And I was like, "Well, what's that?" And so she kind of, you know, read me my chart.

And I have so many questions I wanna ask you about this, but tell me how you got into zodiacal releasing and how you use it today.

[audience cheering]

Thank you so much.

Much appreciated.

Uh, this next little song was, uh...

Oh, I had the strange night.

I was in New Orleans, and in the middle of the night, I was smoking a cigarette by myself.

And, um, this beautiful vehicle in the middle of the night just comes swaying.

[cheering] [clapping]

Mm-hmm.

The first time I saw violins with guitar pedals is gonna be Godspeed.

They had orchestral super cinematic rock.

It changed my life when I saw them.

But there was a really strong rule in our city that you don't sound like somebody else, and you don't...

You can't be like a style.

I remember going to Toronto and the bands would have like a, like a portfolio and a press photo and like this kind of idea, and, and we're like, we didn't have any of that 'cause there was no business there.

Mm-hmm

Where did all our love go? How'd your eyes get so cold?

You can wrap your truth in ribbons and bows, but I just don't know how to be alone.

Inside my mind, made out of holes.

Tell me something that I wanna know.

Oh, oh.

I'll be wrong, you be right.

I don't mind as long as we make it right.

Mm.

[applause] [cheers] [”South of the Border” by Patrick Watson]

Ooh.

Ah.

I could hear that bass two blocks away.

Blowing through the South- And it got dark in the strangest way.

Slowly, slowly came this way.

Like nighttime rooks their trees.

[laughing]