Patrick Ruffini
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Aug 27, 2026
Episode 41: Are Senate Polls Overrating Democrats’ Chances? With Patrick Ruffini of Echelon Insights
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Jeffrey SkellyHOST
I didn't know if there was sort of a top-line thing that you thought would be sort of good for people to understand when looking at this.
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2:50Patrick RuffiniGUEST
yeah so consistently uh over the last four cycles and actually over the last six cycles i should correct it my piece focused on four cycles because that's what i had like full data from sure but um actually there was a piece on the erstwhile 538 that i was able to retrieve that did the analysis of august polling going back to like 1990 and so it's literally the last six cycles um starting in 2014 where august polling has been consistently to the left of the final November result.
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3:25Patrick RuffiniGUEST
Now, what does that mean? It can mean a few things, right? But the one thing I will say, this is not this is not to say that there will be a polling error this time because polling error is obviously judged on the basis of the polls in the last three weeks of the election.
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3:44Patrick RuffiniGUEST
It's also not to say that Democrats won't overperform in a lot of these states, right? I mean, the polls are pretty clear and the midterm environment is pretty clear on the fact that they should overperform.
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3:55Patrick RuffiniGUEST
The question is how much? And the question is, you know, kind of looking at past cycles, what's kind of the realistic bound of Democratic performance, if anything? But I think the very, very clear thing that stands out is that you just simply compare August polling to the final November election results and ask, is this a reliable indicator of where it's gonna go? And if it misses, does it kind of tend to miss equally on both sides? The answer is no.
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4:26Patrick RuffiniGUEST
For the last six cycles in a row, it has overestimated Democrats by about four points or about three to four points.
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Jeffrey SkellyHOST
Cause obviously some were pulled more than others, but, but the broad strokes were, were the, were similar.
Predicting the Midterms
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Patrick RuffiniGUEST
So in 2024, I wrote a book called Party of the People: Inside the Multiracial Populist Coalition Remaking the GOP.
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
The results of that election, you seem to have a realignment not only of working-class voters, but of non-white voters towards Trump and the GOP.
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
You seem to have the normal midterm backlash, particularly against someone like Trump, who has been extremely assertive about the use of executive power.
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
This has intensified Democratic energy to try and put a check on him, and you see in some respects the groups we saw swinging towards Trump on the basis swinging back.
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4:44Larry BernsteinHOST
Do voters in these tight congressional races, are they thinking national party? Do they consider that the candidate is particularly progressive? Will it affect the result of the election in such a tight toss-up race?
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Patrick RuffiniGUEST
Um, but, uh, yeah, no, I, I, I mean, I'm glad you mentioned that because I think that that is, um, uh, you know, that was really kind of the impetus, um, behind me actually writing the book.
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
Um, in 2016, I was not, you know, r- to say the least, very favorable to Trump.
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
I, I didn't fully rule out the case that he would wi- he could win, uh, right? Yeah, just because it being, uh, you know, it, you know, you normally have this pattern in American politics where, you know, a White House after two terms, you know, usually means that the other side wins, but I thought he would be the exception to that.
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
Um, but he did well, obviously not just in the Republican primary, which I was very, you know, dispirited and disillusioned by, having been an acolyte of, uh, you know, George H.W. Bush.
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Sean TrendeHOST
So do I read you right on that? And if so, like, what kinda really got your thinking going on that?
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22:37McGraw MilhavenHOST
If he's not losing the primary voter, what voter is he losing in the, uh, uh, Republican Party, and/or is he losing any support in the Republican Party?
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
Yeah, so there's been a lot of talk, uh, particularly since the, uh, the action in Iran and the various moves, um, that, uh, Trump has made on the world stage, that Trump, you know...
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
People thought, "Well, Trump walked away from this campaign promise of no more, uh, you know, no more of these forever wars.
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
No more, uh, putting other countries first and sending our troops and committing American blood and treasure to these foreign conflicts.
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We're gonna focus right here at home." Right? And most people said, "Well, by doing that, um, he's putting at risk his own MAGA base." Right? He's putting at risk the very voter, um, the nationalist voter that, um, you know, is, uh, very invested in this idea of America first.
Patrick RuffiniGUEST
The voters he has lost over Iran have not-- is not the MAGA voter, is not the, you know, uh, quote-unquote America first voter.
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29:18McGraw MilhavenHOST
But, but getting back to Cassidy and to Thomas Massie, what-- And you've sort of mentioned that what's interesting to me is most of that independents-- Or ex-ex-excuse me, incumbents have such a large, um, uh, advantage, but yet that didn't save Cassidy, and it might not save Thomas Massie.