I'm curious what from those ODA years still shapes how you led in the last part of your career as a two-star general, and what is the lesson or lessons in it or those things that for someone about to take their first real command as an 03 whether it's just traditional um you know regular army or in the special forces community

yeah and let me give a little backdrop on some of those rotations that i did and then i can i can explain how i i guess i thought about some of that stuff So my first mission when I was a captain was to go to a place called the Military Coordination Center in northern Iraq in 1996.

And it was the last rotation as part of Provide Comfort in Iraq.

We were the only Americans in that rotation.

in Northern Iraq at the time.

And our job was to keep track of Saddam's forces, you know, on the Green Line, you know, keep them out of the Kurdish area.

So we were in this area of the, it was the Kurdish Democratic Party area of Kurdistan.

But what was the hardest moment of keeping that coalition together? And what should a leader that could be currently or in the future managing any coalition, military, or whether they're military or civilian, take from how you held it?