So maybe Patrick, could you give our audience an understanding of how you design with sovereign as a first principle and how that goes all the way to the infrastructure later and right up the information architecture?

Yeah, absolutely.

So first of all, thanks, Eric, for having me and a shout out to your audience.

Very, very happy to be here and engage on such a cool topic.

So, yeah, one of the couple of things that we've been partnering with for Rocket for some time between Hewlett Packard Enterprise and The name of the game is around helping folks modernize their unstructured data solutions.

And one of the big topics that customers come to us over the last, I'd say, 12 to 18 months is around Sovereign.

It started off as a conversation, especially in the EU, around regulation, where the data sits.

But what do you think about the need to take security that much more seriously because of these agent swarms and agentic AI and all this stuff happening out there?

So how does that work in the world of hybrid cloud? Yeah, so we have a number

of capabilities that we allow customers to do these AI workloads in a hybrid manner.

So starts with the data layer, right? So we have some scalable systems and architectures that help people specifically for data for AI workloads, right? It's a lot of unstructured data or semi-structured data.

There's new protocols involved.

A lot of the AI actual services are being embedded into the storage layer now.

So data indexing, data queries, data tagging, and then not all data is new, right? So we have the capability to build a data fabric for customers so that you can have newly created data.

You can import brownfield data sets, whether they be databases or semi-structured and have access to that secure access.

Not

When did you first come across Jesse, Patrick?

Yeah, well, I mean, congratulations to Jesse.

That's an unbelievable, unbelievable thing even to be nominated.

let alone with it I first probably met her when Marina I got married in Killarney so I'm a blow in but I know all the callers actually two of my kids went to Fiona's school of acting maybe they should have kept her up because Fiona's brilliant but yeah when I got married in Killarney the organist was sick and actually Marina so Jessie's mum she stepped in and she played the harp and she's an unbelievable harpist and also singer.

And also singer.

So that was actually very, very unusual to have, you know, here comes the bride done with the harp and all.

But she was brilliant.

and

yeah listener says I'm delighted you're having this conversation about horror and its benefits at last I'm a woman and I absolutely love horror movies but people think I'm really weird Halloween is my favourite time of the year The Descent is probably one of the best underrated horror movies ever made what about you Patrick Osborne Patrick of course is an author and screenwriter why do you think we love horror movies Patrick?

I suppose, again, we love the thrill, don't we? We love to be frightened, but then be safe.

And great horrors, I think, if you look at the amount of them, we say that the child is the, you know, like, think of Damien Omen and Halloween, even when Michael Myers, when he first starts killing, that really, really kind of sets it up, you know, that we shouldn't be afraid of children, but we still have to be afraid of children.

You know, like it's, but it is the whole safe space so definitely I can understand where they're going that this can help with anxiety and stress obviously it causes a lot of stress at the time well that's

what I would have thought I mean I spend most of my time watching a horror movie whenever I have watched them over the years behind a cushion

yeah Yeah, no, I think it's safe.

Although there's a friend of mine, he says his horror movie is his wedding video.

Oh, stop.