maybe

of going back and forth over a couple of days and we just figured out I can't do this.

And then for RingCentral at first we had another person setting it up, but the phone system took a while.

But now that I've got it set up, it's been wonderful.

By contrast, things that I really enjoyed was Dennis Ward from ADP.

I was interviewing various people to handle running the payroll system.

And he's like, no, I'll just come to your office.

When it comes to that, you know, talking about that dry spell, when it comes to that mindset, how do you kind of, I guess, maintain stamina that things will eventually pick back up? Was it really just knowing from your past experience and what maybe advice you have for attorneys who may find themselves in that similar position at a solo firm or small firm?