Hey, tell me, Patrick, how does one get into being a drum tech, and are you a drummer?

No. You're a guitarist, aren't you? Yeah, I play guitar badly, and I was, like a lot of guys, I was an instrument when I just through the course of life, married and kids, guitar down for some time.

And then, let's see, I picked up the drum tech thing by, you know, um, I worked for a guy who's a comedian from this area and I got involved with him doing these shows about 2008.

And, uh, Then it happened that Vinny was coming to the shows because the medium was pretty good.

And we sort of added more stuff to the shows and building the show up.

And Vinny, like, and eventually he asked us to take it to Las Vegas.

And he was going to put the show for us.

Yeah.