Is there particular types of farms or systems that are under more pressure, and have you tested that cash flow in, in other ways, we'll say, in terms of to see the impacts at farm level?

Yeah, we have James.

So again, we w- went back and we looked at profit monitor data, and what we're seeing across the country is this, this range in costs to produce milk.

Um, and I think the average has be- starting to become misleading, and I know we would've said this before on a podcast, I think last year or that, like, you know, it's, it's not what the average is, it's where you are compared to the average, and that's becoming very important.

So when we looked at the data and we actually used Lakeland Dairies data, um, across 200 profit monitors, and we just pooled them and put them into top 10% and bottom 10%.

And if we looked at the difference in cost control between the top 10% and the bottom 10%, it was nearly €400 cow.

So the top 10% basically produced milk at €400 cow lower than the bottom 10%.

What options are available to farmers? Uh, how maybe do they distinguish then between a temporary time and issue and a more a f- a fundamental problem, if you know what I mean?