Why did you step off to get your MBA at Wharton?

Yeah, so I think it's important to note that while, you know, looking back a long time ago, 20 years, my first step was, uh, very difficult in terms of even just landing the, the role in investment banking at Rothschild, because I was graduating in 2002, right into the, you know, the dot-com burst and then right after 9/11.

And so I was actually...

I felt very fortunate to land that first role.

It was one of my last interviews.

I struck out at a whole bunch of interviews kind of leading up to that.

Um, and then more importantly, my, my transition to private equity was even rockier, so I actually got fired from my first private equity job within a few months.

Um, and maybe what gaps are you seeing in traditional undergrad or grad career services that your program solves?