[static] How do you guys feel about the esoterics? Do you guys wanna pull a card for tarot time? [gentle music]

[gentle music]Sure.

Is that what eso- [laughs] I don't know

[laughs]

I actually, I actually did, uh...

Well, I don't know.

'Cause it, it lasted so long that eventually, like, just like two of them were like, "All right, I gotta go," and so, the, like, two left.

But I guess, I mean, I'm, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna toot my own horn, I guess the head I was given was so good that the last one was just like, "Nah."

So how often do you like to put out music? What's the relationship with it? Is it something you want to do all the time? You do it when it's fun for you? Yeah,

it's definitely not something I want to do all the time.

I used to... live in a studio that was in my my uh parents like back house grat was like a garage so i was doing it all the time um after the pandemic i was pretty much spending most time like getting into streaming travel shows i just my attention shifted and i didn't really want to do that it was usually like an album a year just just to do it you know um and then like uh from 2021 to 2024 i didn't really do anything um but then last year i put out like a small ep i just i just shrunk down what a project was because a lot of times when you like i'm gonna do this project and it's huge it gets overwhelming and then you either never start or you do a little bit of it and don't finish it and that's me 100 so i sort of reduced it to like just just Just an EP.

And that kind of built the momentum.

And then I dropped an album earlier this year.

And then I just dropped an EP on Halloween.

So it's kind of one of those things that it just kind of happens when it happens.

Exactly.