Old football or old soccer against new football, I think that's how we called it in 2005, uh, and I think it's how it's being billed today, uh, at what's gonna be a brilliant day.

day.Ah, so I just can't wait to get there and, and take in the atmosphere.

I'll be, uh, obviously behind Victory, that's my team.

But, um, yeah, I mean, whether you're, um, for, for Victory or for South Melbourne or, or just a, a football neutral, it's just gonna be fantastic.

And, um, yeah, just I, I love all the connections even between the, the two teams.

Obviously the Davidson family, you know, Kevin Muscat, there's, there's James Postacoglu.

There's so many connections between, uh, as you say, um, uh, old soccer and new football.

Mm

If Protestants and Catholics ever did anything wrong to each other, would that sell as many tickets? So, I'm curious, how does football get unity where we need unity, but harness the passion, which comes from some of the disagreements in our game, for something positive to have these passion in the sands and passion for these games?

Yeah, I mean, I think it's important to have difference between fans to create that rivalry.

And I don't think we necessarily want unity amongst the fans of clubs within the A-League and those beyond.

it's that that makes our game the greatest.

The atmosphere that's created, it's arising from that rivalry and that it's unity.

I think when we talk about unity, we talk more about the governance structures and the key decision makers.

That's where we need the unity.

Has there been a change in the supporter base where there's a lot of people which are just younger people who are just completely oblivious to some of the divides which happened 20 years ago?

What should people know about Cora?

Cora was cautious, she was shy, but she was so good at making friends.

I used to see her at birthday parties and And at school, when I'm picking her up, and I could see the friendships that she was creating, and I just loved that.

I loved that about her.

She loved princesses.

She loved to do art.

Less into sports, more into art.

When you think about them this way, Is it good, or is it painful, or is it both? It's both.

What should people know about Cora?

Cora was, um, cautious.

She was shy, but she was so good at making friends.

I, I used to see her at birthday parties and, um, and at school when I'm picking her up, and I could see the friendships that she was creating, and I just loved that.

I loved that about her.

She loved princesses.

She, uh, she loved to do art.

Tell people what that is.

Callan somehow survived and was airlifted to Boston Children's Hospital.

So I didn't have all the details of Callan's condition.

I just knew that they got a heartbeat back, so...

I remember that night, I really thought there was a chance that Callan would live, and I remember just thinking, just give me one, just give me one kid, and I would raise him as best I could, and I would give him the best life I possibly could, and I'd tell him about his brother and sister, and I was holding out hope for that.

And then when I got to the hospital, I saw the doctor, I saw the look on her face, and I knew that it wasn't gonna be a good prognosis.

How do you respond to people who have that

idea about you? It's deeply harmful to the legacy of my children.

It is a huge distraction from what really matters here, which is perinatal mental health.

Callan somehow survived and was airlifted to Boston Children's Hospital.

So I didn't have all the details of Callan's condition.

I just knew that they got a heartbeat back, so...

I remember that night, I really thought there was a chance that Callan would live.

And I remember just thinking, just give me one.

Just give me one kid.

And I would raise him as best I could.

Testifying is very difficult.

Look,

I'm going to be fair to APL and to Football Australia and the clubs as well.

I don't think any of them necessarily want to sanitise it I think they're up against police as well as venue owners, operators, that don't understand the culture of active fans.

I was talking with Football Australia only on Thursday, I had a catch up with some of them, and they're very keen to see active fans better cater for, to not have police act in the way that they have in the past.

But it's a really tough task to change that culture, particularly in Melbourne and Sydney with police.

And to get venue operators as well to understand.

Venue operators who largely are dealing with AFL or rugby league crowds or cricket as well.

All right, is there anything else pressing in the world of the fan out there that you think needs to be addressed?

Do they create enough opportunities? Are they going to get enough chances against Egypt?

Well, I think, as you alluded to, it wasn't about necessarily scoring a lot against Paraguay.

It was about, first and foremost, getting the draw and progressing as a second-place team, and they got that.

I mean, I guess as fans and, you know, when you go to the live sites and that, everyone wants to see lots of goals.

And, yeah, that's, of course, a natural thing.

But I reckon that he will absolutely be focused, Popovich, that is, on putting out a team that scores goals.

We might see Toure perhaps up front again with Aaron Kunder, you know, on his shoulder.

And over east, what has it been like in terms of the crowds, the fascination with the Socceroos so