And

it's tough to think about.

For sure.

My exposure and knowledge of Glenn came in a totally different vein than probably a lot of of his fans and probably a lot of for sure Pearl Jam fans, I knew of the frames and then I kind of never like completely attached to them.

And so when he reemerged really during, you know, Ed's solo stuff and then being part of PJ 20 for the Pearl Jam community, I wasn't able to go to PJ 20.

I was in a, a bit of a tour hiatus at that point.

But I remember hearing about it.

I don't think resonates with a whole lot of people.