So why do you think it's a good time to do this?

I think it's a good time to do this because of the state of our world.

I think that being in, I made a conscious decision to go into the public sector and into the nonprofit community.

I had the education, I had the background and the experience, but I'm a person that's very much mission-driven and faith-driven.

And so when I see what is happening in the world and all of my colleagues, whether they're in the private, public, or nonprofit, we see the back end of things that have gone on.

For the first time, and I say this started beginning with the pandemic, the murder of George Floyd, what I saw is now the kinds of things that only maybe us in the public sector were dealing with.

There started being a convergence.

So before we get into talking about empowering young HR leaders, would you give us a brief overview? What was your path? What was your career path to get into the role you're at now?