
Pat McCabe
Former Australian rugby union player
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May 7, 2026
The Indigenous Paradigm: Pat McCabe & Lynn Murphy
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4:18Lynn MurphyHOST
And I just wanna open this space for you to go deeper into those teachings, and perhaps say what's on your heart about what this moment is initiating us into, and what is our task.
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4:29Pat McCabeGUEST
Thank you, Lynn, and thank you, um, my new friends at Sand, uh, new friends and old friends, part of this community.
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4:37Pat McCabeGUEST
Really honored to be here today, and, uh, just wanted to introduce myself in a formal way to you, but also to, to that which is beyond us that is also, um, watching and listening for us and these inquiries that we're in.
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5:02Pat McCabeGUEST
Um, I'm telling you about the, my, my mother's clans, my father's mother's clan.
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5:11Pat McCabeGUEST
And so we get our clans from our mothers, and, uh, and so that, those clan names are referring to places on the earth, and they're referring to our relationship to those places and the ways in which those places furthered our humanity, sometimes through worlds more than just this one that we know right now.
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5:36Pat McCabeGUEST
And so this is an acknowledgement of that long line that I was talking about before.
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37:43Lynn MurphyHOST
I've also heard you enter it through the doorway of speaking about sovereignty, sovereignty and consent of how we work with all our relations.
Pat McCabe (Woman Stands Shining) | Indigenous Teachings on the Sacred Feminine and Masculine
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Thomas HüblHOST
Like, what are you referring you when you use these terms? How is this connected to gender, like as we usually understand it? Or what goes beyond it? So what, what's behind these terms, uh, men's nation and women's nation?
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2:54Pat McCabeGUEST
Uh, people know us as Navajo, and I was also adopted into the Lakota spiritual way of life.
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3:00Pat McCabeGUEST
And, um, and my grandparents and parents were taken into, uh, Dutch Christian Reform residential boarding schools.
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3:10Pat McCabeGUEST
And so by the time I came along, um, my family was not really, not practicing our cultural ways or speaking our language or involved in our ceremonial life.
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3:24Pat McCabeGUEST
Um, and so I've been in a process of, of recovery and retrieval and also stepping in and hearing, um, I guess I'll say in real time, in current time.
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